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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by Clr Ralph Baldwin</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/03/bonnie-prince-davy-labours-lost-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12944</link>
		<dc:creator>Clr Ralph Baldwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DM made many errors in his article it was not worth reading beyond the first paragraph and that is saying something.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DM made many errors in his article it was not worth reading beyond the first paragraph and that is saying something&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>Comment on In defence of bankers and Fred the shred by David</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/02/in-defence-of-bankers-and-fred-the-shred/comment-page-1/#comment-12943</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Utter crap. Bankers such as these are just bureaucrats. They are not wealth creators. This isn&#039;t class war, it&#039;s about those that are &#039;in&#039; building fences against the rest. Including business. Being against greedy bankers is to be pro-business. Being for greedy bankers is to be pro-establishment. Take your pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Utter crap. Bankers such as these are just bureaucrats. They are not wealth creators. This isn&#8217;t class war, it&#8217;s about those that are &#8216;in&#8217; building fences against the rest. Including business. Being against greedy bankers is to be pro-business. Being for greedy bankers is to be pro-establishment. Take your pick.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by swatantra</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/03/bonnie-prince-davy-labours-lost-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12942</link>
		<dc:creator>swatantra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David should be thankful that there are things other than politics to occupy his mind and earn a decent living at. Basically he bottled his chance of taking the leadership off Gordon, and you don&#039;t get a second chance in politics. I have a feeling that he will end up an embittered old man like David Owen, unless he changes direction; Owen likewise did a 3 year stint as Foreign Sec and was then retired by the electorate. He could try journalism or university lecturing just like Condeleeza after she fell from grace. He mustn&#039;t look on it as a demotion but as a carreer change for he better. Its pointless him setting out a platform to spring back because I&#039;m not listening, and neither is anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David should be thankful that there are things other than politics to occupy his mind and earn a decent living at. Basically he bottled his chance of taking the leadership off Gordon, and you don&#8217;t get a second chance in politics. I have a feeling that he will end up an embittered old man like David Owen, unless he changes direction; Owen likewise did a 3 year stint as Foreign Sec and was then retired by the electorate. He could try journalism or university lecturing just like Condeleeza after she fell from grace. He mustn&#8217;t look on it as a demotion but as a carreer change for he better. Its pointless him setting out a platform to spring back because I&#8217;m not listening, and neither is anyone else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by Emma Burnell</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/03/bonnie-prince-davy-labours-lost-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12941</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma Burnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the biggest problem with Miliband&#039;s article (other than the turgid prose) is that it makes the common but enormous mistake of but makes the mistake of thinking Labour only has one comfort zone.

We have two, the so-called reassurance tradition and a dogmatic New Labour approach. Both are electorally hazardous. 

Simply arguing that we should exchange one for the other (either way) is a disastrous distraction from the work we need to do to present a Labour politics for 2012. Not 1983 or 1994.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the biggest problem with Miliband&#8217;s article (other than the turgid prose) is that it makes the common but enormous mistake of but makes the mistake of thinking Labour only has one comfort zone.</p>
<p>We have two, the so-called reassurance tradition and a dogmatic New Labour approach. Both are electorally hazardous. </p>
<p>Simply arguing that we should exchange one for the other (either way) is a disastrous distraction from the work we need to do to present a Labour politics for 2012. Not 1983 or 1994.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by Plashing Vole</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/03/bonnie-prince-davy-labours-lost-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12940</link>
		<dc:creator>Plashing Vole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 12:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very sound piece. He came to my university a few days ago. He was pleasant, thoughtful, interesting - but I still couldn&#039;t work out what he believed in and what he would DO. 
http://plashingvole.blogspot.com/2012/01/live-blogging-david-miliband.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very sound piece. He came to my university a few days ago. He was pleasant, thoughtful, interesting &#8211; but I still couldn&#8217;t work out what he believed in and what he would DO.<br />
<a href="http://plashingvole.blogspot.com/2012/01/live-blogging-david-miliband.html" rel="nofollow">http://plashingvole.blogspot.com/2012/01/live-blogging-david-miliband.html</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by figurewizard</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/03/bonnie-prince-davy-labours-lost-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12939</link>
		<dc:creator>figurewizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;economics of growth&#039; rings a bell because that is what we were told we were getting year on year at budget time, until the wheels eventually fell off that is. For most of his Parliamentary career David Milliband was part of that narrative.

That makes him as discredited as the rest of Labour&#039;s front bench. This and the long running and as yet unresolved feud between Blairites and Brownites means that he would clearly be unable to pull the party together to get on with providing a meaningful and constructive opposition. As a new leader he would actually end up being regarded as &#039;more of the same&#039; and an impediment therefore to finding the new people and developing the genuinely new policies that are needed to persuade the rest of us that it could once again be trusted in government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;economics of growth&#8217; rings a bell because that is what we were told we were getting year on year at budget time, until the wheels eventually fell off that is. For most of his Parliamentary career David Milliband was part of that narrative.</p>
<p>That makes him as discredited as the rest of Labour&#8217;s front bench. This and the long running and as yet unresolved feud between Blairites and Brownites means that he would clearly be unable to pull the party together to get on with providing a meaningful and constructive opposition. As a new leader he would actually end up being regarded as &#8216;more of the same&#8217; and an impediment therefore to finding the new people and developing the genuinely new policies that are needed to persuade the rest of us that it could once again be trusted in government.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by The Future</title>
		<link>http://labour-uncut.co.uk/2012/02/03/bonnie-prince-davy-labours-lost-king/comment-page-1/#comment-12938</link>
		<dc:creator>The Future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Miliband should leave politics.  That or grow up and join the shadow cabinet.  Most people, even his allies, are becoming tired of this self indulgent flounce.  Always the same.  Write and article, damn with faint page and then nothing!  

He needs to move on before he does his reputation any more damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Miliband should leave politics.  That or grow up and join the shadow cabinet.  Most people, even his allies, are becoming tired of this self indulgent flounce.  Always the same.  Write and article, damn with faint page and then nothing!  </p>
<p>He needs to move on before he does his reputation any more damage.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by John P Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The press are picking up on this as an ttack on Ed, read Eoin Clarkes blog and he point&#039;s out it wasn&#039;t, Ed miliband had the energy to win, and unfrtunatley he&#039;s been disapointing, david miliband couldn&#039;t win the ARGUMENT to win and as such he had his chance and blew it, after the Leelction If another leader (Yvette)t akes over the next elader would be wise to invite david back, but he&#039;s not leadership amterial as by his fialed leadership campaign showed,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The press are picking up on this as an ttack on Ed, read Eoin Clarkes blog and he point&#8217;s out it wasn&#8217;t, Ed miliband had the energy to win, and unfrtunatley he&#8217;s been disapointing, david miliband couldn&#8217;t win the ARGUMENT to win and as such he had his chance and blew it, after the Leelction If another leader (Yvette)t akes over the next elader would be wise to invite david back, but he&#8217;s not leadership amterial as by his fialed leadership campaign showed,</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bonnie prince Davy, Labour&#8217;s lost king by Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn’t a contribution to the battle of ideas it’s just a series of platitudes.

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As is your article Atul. 

Where is the content on your side? Nothing - just a set of moans. 

The problem is government. The legacy of Labour is 7,000 bn of debt. The Condems will leave an even bigger mess, because they are increasing spending and debt at a rapid rate. 

In otherwords, it has tipped. The UK is going the way of Greece. 

If you think different, post the numbers. You won&#039;t. 

Now for another set of numbers. What should the benefit cap be in Toxteth. I think the people of Toxteth should be told.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn’t a contribution to the battle of ideas it’s just a series of platitudes.</p>
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<p>As is your article Atul. </p>
<p>Where is the content on your side? Nothing &#8211; just a set of moans. </p>
<p>The problem is government. The legacy of Labour is 7,000 bn of debt. The Condems will leave an even bigger mess, because they are increasing spending and debt at a rapid rate. </p>
<p>In otherwords, it has tipped. The UK is going the way of Greece. </p>
<p>If you think different, post the numbers. You won&#8217;t. </p>
<p>Now for another set of numbers. What should the benefit cap be in Toxteth. I think the people of Toxteth should be told.</p>
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		<title>Comment on In defence of bankers and Fred the shred by John P Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>John P Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant</p>
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