12 Responses to “Labour needs a new Roy Jenkins”

  1. paul barker says:

    If you want to vote for Liberal Social Democrats, why not vote for The Liberal Democrats ?Thats what Roy Jenkins did, after all. Why keep trying to force Labour into a mould it can never fit ?

  2. Feodor says:

    A lot of words in which the writer says what exactly? I’m a Liberal Democrat who doesn’t want Corbyn or any of the other contenders to win the leadership because they don’t reflect my views? I can criticise others for offering simple solutions while offering nothing constructive of my own? I think Roy Jenkins was a top bloke? This website has really started to scrape the barrel, both for articles and editors, it seems.

  3. historyintime says:

    A fine article although I think we need a Healey more so than a Jenkins. But what they both had was fight. We are going to lose the leadership election not because of policies but because of the risk aversion and plain boredom of the two serious Right/Centre candidates. Leaving us with Worzel Gummidge as leader. A Hugh Gaitskell wouldn’t be bad either. Fight and fight again.

  4. Madasafish says:

    “There is no love for Conservatives in this country. They won the general election in spite of themselves”

    And I assume – by omission – Mr Todd thinks there is love for Labour?

    Time for a reality check. Apart from Party supporters and activists, few few people in the UK “love” politicians. I suspect most of us think they are a necessary evil.. All we ask is honesty, and a degree of competence. And not lying too often. And not treating the electorate as if we are fools.

    I ask Mr Todd to look at the Leadership election for the Labour Leadership.

    Now no-one in their right mind could call the organisation “competent” . A shambles from the “open to everyone to vote ” being modified to “not if you are anti Labour”, to the 100,000 ballot papers still not distributed to voters..etc. It is not unreasonable to assume if you cannot run an ineternal election, you clearly are incompetent to govern.

    Honesty? One candidate – Burnham – has contradicted himself in public a number of times. Obviously either a liar or a buffoon.
    Honesty? Like offering 10,000 refugees places when Labour complain (rightly) about housing shortages?

    And so on.

    And you think you are loved? Think of Ed Miliband – another useless Leader to go beside the one you are likely to elect. Who can “Love” a Party run by an apologist for terrorists?

    Basically Labour is not “loved” but “laughed at”..

  5. Robert says:

    I am sympathetic to liberal social democracy but I would prefer another Crosland. Of course, Jenkins and Crosland were often in the same cabinet as Benn, so hopefully liberal social democrats will try to work constructively with Corbyn. This would be in contrast to the way that Benn often undermined Michael Foot.

  6. Bob Crossly says:

    “Only Terrible Simplifiers now have such capacity to draw crowds”.

    You say “now”, trying to draw a distinction between the enthusiasm for the SDP then, and the enthusiasm for Farage and Cornyn. There is no distinction. The SDP project was itself a terrible simplification. The message was “Vote for us and you can have what you like about Labour without the Trade Unions and CND and inside the Common Market”. That was about it really as far as most voters were concerned. They were cruelly misled by a man who knew the chance of success was microscopic, but liked being “in the fray”. He opted out of the difficult task of renewing Labour and helped the Tory Party stay in power.

    If you learn anything from the SDP catastrophe and Jenkins’ role in it you should learn that you should stay and fight your corner in the Labour party.

  7. paul barker says:

    @Bob Crossley. You make a fair point about the simplyfications of The SDP but you underestimate just how close The Alliance came to pushing Labour into 3rd place. If Argentina hadnt invaded The Falklands or Benn had defeated Healey, events might have turned out very differently.
    In any case there are more than 2 choices for Labour Moderates – its not simply a choice between stay & fight or form a breakaway Party. They could also stay & not fight or they could join The Liberal Democrats.

  8. John A Bateson says:

    Roy Jenkins initiated a very liberal series of social reforms as Home Secy from 65-67, which the country needed desperately but some senior Labour figures fought shy of. There was timidity at the top plus the influence – always malign in the Labour party – of statist puritanism.
    Returning as HS in 74 he was faced with IRA terrorism on the mainland which necessitated the Prevention of Terrorism Act and took precedence over further liberal reforms. Had Jim made him Foreign Secy rather than Tony C the SDP could have been avoided.

  9. Jimmy says:

    So ideally we are looking for a moderate with senior cabinet experience currently out of parliament in a high profile job overseas.

    It’s on the tip of my tongue…

  10. anosrep says:

    Woy Jenkins? Tony Benn’s response to Jenkins at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiBqJraaXcI#t=47m16s is spot-on.

  11. Tafia says:

    We are going to lose the leadership election

    despite Frankie Boyle’s biting satire in his Guardian article last week, that is actually impossible. The Labour leadership will be won by a member of the Labour Party.

  12. John P Reid says:

    Anosrep, Tony Benn talked of class traitory yet he was upper class and he nearly destroyed the labour party,yes Jenkins did become a labour minister thanks to labour victories,of which Jenkins played a larger part on getting labour elected than Benn

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